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03/31/2011

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Jenny

Jenny said...
Re: Ferrer. Typical over-reaction by the media, imho. Yes, David lobbed a soft ball into the stands, but it was clearly NOT a purposeful hard whack with any intention to injure, [he isn't the first] there is absolutely no way he would deliberately hurt anyone, least of all a child! It's usually his racquet that goes first. When the child cried, he stopped play immediately, looked towards the stands, said nothing and waited for the babe to stop crying and then carried on play when she did quieten. It was not done while the child was crying, it came after he was broken and not immediately after he whacked a ball into the net on that first serve. Agreed, he shouldn't have done it despite feeling stomach discomfort. In actual fact he placed no blame on the child's crying for his own poor performance. Agreed also, a toddler shouldn't have been in the stadium in the first place. Bored, hot, toddlers cry, they couldn't care less if they're at a 1000 series Masters event, in the local supermarket, and sensible, thoughtful parents should know that!

Reply 03/31/2011 at 09:48 AM Sol said...
Ugh. I don't even know where to start. So I won't. Jenny said it all. I'll just say that they clearly don't know Ferru if they think he was aiming at the baby. Much ado about Nothing.


banti

Yeah this was just an unfortunate incident that seems to be blown out of proportion. Unlucky for David but surely forgotten as quickly as it was conjured.

Bettyjane

I was really super dismayed to see this story made the AOL news board. God knows how many non tennis fans are now going to equate Ferrer with being a foul-tempered boor.

Bjornino

The journalists are to blame for that. Very bad of them to "use" this story like that to make headlines.

Jenny

Bettyjane, Hopefully non tennis won't give it a second thought. Thankfully, tennis fans in general, his own fans, and players know him better than that, he's well respected in the locker room. He can be hot tempered and was clearly hacked off with his performance, but he is certainly no boor! As banti says, the incident has been blown up out of all proportion.

Bjornino

This is what Fish said:
Fish added, “ I didn't see him do that. I obviously know that it's going on. He'd probably take that one back if he could. He's a very nice guy. Obviously flustered."—Matthew Cronin

Jenny

Bjornino, Thank you, I read Fish's comment. Let's put it this way, I watched the entire match on TV, our Sky comms didn't even mention it at the time!

M

"the incident has been blown up out of all proportion."

That seems to be happening a lot lately. I know moguls have to sell their papers and get their web page hits, but ... really, AOL?
*sigh*

M

Nice of Mardy.

Jenny

M, It was nice of Mardy. Nothing in the British press and our comms were very low key about it today, they didn't make much of it at all.

sperry

Ok. Devil's advocate here. Nice guy, Ferrer. No one doubts it and every one of these comments points that out. "No big deal," you all say. "No harm, no foul." "An abberation. Won't see it again." I happen to agree. Now... let's all close our eyes and try to imagine if Djokovic had done EXACTLY the same thing.

banti

Nothing would change obviously. After seeing what happened and hearing the commentating on it. I find the attention this got as ridiculous, would feel the same if Novak was the player in question. He couldn't have hit a softer ball into the stands, how these idiots think he was even thinking of the baby when he did it , is beyond me.

Jenny

Fair comment, Sperry!! Slighty off topic, does anyone think it would be a good idea to have an on-site creche at these big tourneys?? Surely they can afford it, there has to be a suitable safe space away from the court and the kids could be kept amused while their parents can enjoy the match, peace of mind for the parents if they can't find a sitter.

M

Does the Devil really need any more Advocates? ;-)

M

That might be a really good idea, Jenny, assuming they could properly fund the best childcare (which might be tricky in and of itself, sigh).
The committees certainly seem to find the funds for all their other desired improvements. Not everybody can be Myla and Charlene, with their own honor guard.

sperry

Banti... surely you jest. I strongly suspect you would be calling for banishing Djokovic from tennis for life. Your lack of objectivity is .... astounding.

Jenny

M, I'm sure funds could be found from somewhere, and I'm not suggesting it as a free service.

Jenny

Sperry, I didn't see banti's comment as anti Djoko, am I right, banti?

banti

I think I was clear as to what I would do after you posed the question. And am having to repeat myself for you. I thought the video showed a frustrated player hitting a ball into the stands with absolutely no intention to harm and I would feel this way about any other player. How your able to deduce my lack of objectivity from this is the question. Please point out another incident that lead you to believe I lack objectivity in my opinion about Novak. My dislike for Novak stems from his one of a kind on court behavior and nothing more, if this wasn't clear.

M

Oh, absolutely, Jenny, no question. I'm sure there's money that could be allocated, I was only thinking about whether the committee would have the good sense to allocate them as generously as imo they're warranted. Not just proper salaries, but also liability coverage, etc.

(I think childcare is a chronically underfunded profession, but that's a different rant.)

M

*peeks in*
Guys? At the risk of getting my head bitten off, wasn't it the two of you that were ... advocating de-escalation of another discussion's tenor in another time and thread?

♪♫ "Things that Make you Go Hmmm ..." ♪♫
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo

Jenny

M, I don't see a problem. Sort out a safe facility and buy approved play equipment, hire qualified staff who are police/social services checked and deemed safe to work with kids, [we don't want creepy paedophiles or nutballs sneaking in], pay a decent salary, get suitable insurance, it's only for a matter of 2 weeks at most. lol sorted.

SE

(I apologize for the lo-fi quality in advance)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hommJkp5CY&feature=related

M

*helpless laughter*

M

Jenny, I'm writing to the ATP and suggesting they put you in charge! :-D

bibi

This "story" has been deliberately started and blown out of proportion by non other than P. Bodo, in order to whip up animosity towards Spaniards before the Davis Cup match US-Spain.

Xeres

Dahveed would never hurt a baby..frustrated or not ! How can he when he's such a cherubic angel himself ?!
That Bodo is such a dodo :-/

Jenny

Yep, first read the Bodo article. He would never deliberately hurt a baby or an animal or my judge of character is totally off the wall.. I remember in the Auckland 2007 final, Tommy Robredo nearly went head first over the net running for one of David's balls. David dropped his racquet, ran like fury and steadied Tommy before he did some serious damage to himself, Tommy could have broken his neck. Maybe one of our friends here could dig out a pic, I know there is one. LOL Xeres, I'm sure he's no angel, despite his looks, he's human! As far as DC is concerned, the US have to come in as favourites on their chosen surface at home, although all of the regular Spanish team are no slouches on a hard court and will stick together like glue. The reality is, both teams have the highest regard for each other as individuals, but of course the crowd will naturally be behind the US team.

DSG

I am appalled at Ferrer's behavior.

Re: Child care at a tennis tournament: I can only foresee many problems with that. Legal, medical, etc.

And I agree with Sperry.

Jenny

DSG, re child care. I'm sure there will be certain problems, but the organisers/ATP are professionals and little is impossible to overcome, surely? We have private day care creches/nurseries here and in certain places of work, as I'm sure there are in the US and in other parts of Europe, [nothing to do with tennis] and they have to comply with certain regulations, eg legal or medical.

DSG

I 'm thinking in terms of volume possibilities...

Dee

I stand on my ground.Again one sided story.Every story has two sides. Hope they give Ferrer an opportunity to explain too.

Jenny

Dee, Me too. I think David's reaction was instinctive and not calculated, so I doubt he has a logical explanation, he was furious with himself at that moment in time. I've seen many well known players lob a ball into the stands out of frustration and nothing was ever written about it, merely the odd remark from a comm at the time. I've read comments on other sites and I thought he might have got a good old bashing but he didn't, rather the reverse in fact.

Jenny

For Dee [herewith an explanation], and others here who have shown an interest in this unfortunate story. A case of 2+2 = 5. I hope the media stops to think next time before acting like a bull in a china shop.

[source DavidFerrer.com 2.4.2011] Translated from Spanish. [Google].

"DAVID STATEMENTS

"After the appearance of the news media in the U.S. in the match played this week and I confronted my partner Mardy Fish in the Miami tournament I want to convey the following:" Because of my poor play during the game by throwing react a loose ball into the stands where my crew. This gesture has been misunderstood and wanted to get my mind ever since I launched my career and throw a ball against anyone to do harm. "" Indeed, as shown in the pictures, there was a boy who cried during the match and There is a time when I prepare to take q wait a few seconds until the child calms down, followed suit and soon set the ball to my technical team, not the child. "" I am surprised at the impact it has had This gesture and the echo that has been among the U.S. media, because sometimes players throw balls into the air in certain sets of the match without media coverage, pq are released with no intention of harming anyone. Clearly, if I have lost was my game and not a crying baby. "" I'm sorry if this act has upset some viewers "

Dee

I am glad.Jenny you are a true Ferrerfan.

banti

Jenny thanks for the update.

M

A sincere, elegant, and also imo strategic gesture by Ferru.

He did something that's very tricky to do -- got his own story and interpretation of facts out in the face of over-dramatic (and slightly twisted) alternative assertions that had already been widely disseminated.

I admit to being concerned for the Spanish team, traveling to the Erwin Center at UT in Austin, where a very very partisan crowd will no doubt be in full (and loud) evidence. I try to sustain good faith that the fans will show respect -- but of course Spain will be the "away" team, and I spent some time in Texas and have seen first-hand the extent to which the rowdier fringe of the "home" crowd can get absolutely out of control. "Hook 'em horns" indeed.**

(I had hoped to the last they'd choose to play at MSG instead so that there'd perhaps be a greater likelihood of a more globally diverse, closer-to-bipartisan crowd ... not just because I look forward to every opportunity our city can host the Armada, LOL.)

So if, as others have said, that "alternative" version of what happened was in fact whipped up to stoke animosity against the Spaniards visiting for DC, that was a skillful move by David to get out in front of it, and so very diplomatically too.

Very savvy, that handsome man.

Thank you so much for the update, Jenny.

**As it is his actual hometown as well as home state and country, I do, however, have full faith in A-Rod (and Jim and the team) in his/their capacity to serve as gracious host and lead by example.
(So listen up to them, Longhorns, and for the love of faith don't "show out".)

banti

Concerned? Your really picking the Armada over your National team in the DC? Are you even allowed to do that?:) Is Rafa even playing? He's undecided last I heard. Will you be picking them over the U.S. without Rafa???? I can verify the Armada will have their hands full at my Alma Mater come this July:) Don't expect the American southern hospitality to be oozing out of the FEC come that weekend:) The Armada should just man up (I mean as best as they can:) ) and prepare for tough conditions.

Jenny

lol banti, 'man up'! The Armada might be a pretty bunch, but these boys are as tough as they come! I'm sure poor M will be torn. The Spanish team were subject to tough conditions in Argentina [the 2008 DC favourites] on a hardcourt too, I believe Verdasco was at the receiving end of insults from the partisan crowd, but rather than crumble in a heap, it got him fired up even more, he and Feli won the cup two handed! Rafa was injured and David sub par. Right now, we have no confirmation from the captains as to who will make up the teams.

banti

"these boys are as tough as they come!"

Lol Jenny if you say so:) I'm sure they'll have their heels off and their hair tied back:) so no worries.

Jenny

LOL banti! If you want to borrow my 3" dark green, faux croc effect leather stilettos, just ask, no problem! My husband tried them on and staggered around for a laugh, it was hilarious! Let's hope we have a great final today. Enjoy!

M

"Don't expect the American southern hospitality to be oozing out of the FEC come that weekend"

My point exactly.

"Your really picking the Armada over your National team in the DC? Are you even allowed to do that?:)"

Hee hee. I don't think so, no. :-)

M

"! I'm sure poor M will be torn."

Yes!

That CD in Argentina was awesome. I remember Ferrer v. Nalbandian. It was like the Roman Coliseum in there.

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