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12/30/2015

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Gary Moser

SOME BEAUTIFUL CLOSE-UP CAMERA WORK OF FEDERER HITTING IN BRISBANE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IeoTsNfrE

Stella

Nestor, now in the company of Connors, Lendl and Federer.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/nestor-1000-match-wins-tribute

Gary Moser

BROOKE SHIELDS on ANDRE AGASSI : "He's not an evil person."

[ talk about damning with faint praise! ]

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/brooke-shields-throws-shade-ex-212600755.html

O

interview de Roger Federer 27-12-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WurdSRni04c

Stella

when I watch the sea rain falling
I reach out to find the clicker.
When I hear the bushbirds calling
I know I need the clicker quicker

Stella

on RF's Facebook page this morning
I want to inform you that yesterday I underwent arthroscopic surgery on my knee. I injured my knee the day after the semi-finals in Australia. After getting tests done when I returned home, it was determined that I had torn my meniscus. I apologize to my friends in Rotterdam and Dubai, as I was very much looking forward to playing those events. While this is an unfortunate setback, I am encouraged and grateful that my doctor said the procedure was a success. I am looking forward to attacking the rehabilitation process this afternoon with my team and working hard to get back out on tour as soon as possible. Thanks for all your incredible support. I will check in with all of you soon.

Alpha

Silent ban? Injured day AFTER semi? What was he doing? Goes off early February. Probably comes back 30 days later , looking perfectly fine. If Nadal could be questioned....

Gary Moser

Must have been an infinitesimal amount of dope to draw only 30 days instead of the "usual" 180... :->

sperry

Is there reason to believe that it was dope?

sperry

The "reason" for not releasing the results of drug tests until after everything is decided (and I don't believe it for a minute and it infuriates me) is to "protect the innocent players." (Imagine if they did that for drunk drivers in an affluent city... convictions for incidents of drunk driving would drop through the floor.) Instead, now players have to put up with the rumor mill.

Alpha

None. But I figured that everyone speculated so wildly when Rafa was injured and Roger was owed the same courtesy.

Alpha

Ha ha! Wait. It usually starters 30 days.

Btw, what was he doing? Clearly couldn't be tennis related. Day after Djokovic match so unlikely he was practicing

sperry

Without saying Nadal is or isn't, and Roger is or isn't, the circumstances look different to me. There was at least a bunch of circumstantial evidence surrounding Rafa before the alleged suspension. Then someone on this site claimed to have some insider info (exactly the type we should all ignore) and gave a date for Rafa's return. I made a mental note and... wha-la... the guy was right. Also, remember Rafa came back in time for the FO. It's easy to see his lawyers putting a "this is not negotiable" stamp on the FO. "We'll give up anything but that." Not proof... just suspicious to me. On the other hand, thirty days sounds like a slap on the hand. Roger, if he's guilty of doping, will have to fake a surgery. Easy enough to buy someone off, but what a f-ing RISK!!! This guy decides, after a year, to sell a story to the New York Times, and Roger has a problem.

Gary Moser

FEBRUARY: in like a DelPo [ Delray Beach ], out like a Federer [ Rotterdam/Dubai ]...

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2016/02/03/sports/tennis/03reuters-tennis-delpotro.html?_r=0

Gary Moser

If Roger's guilty of doping and got 30 days...why wouldn't he just reprise a snippet of 2013's "back pain"?

sperry

Sure. Surgery has a bit more credibility... but... yeah. No risk with a sore back. The people who don't like him will spread rumors one way or the other, and the people who do will believe anything he says.

Alpha

Just like it was with Nadal.

Alpha

17 slams is a (small) part of the reason why he is the GOAT:

http://theringsideview.com/a-heart-warming-story-on-roger-federer/

nick

Good that you found this. I was aware of how close Fed was with Peter but did not realize that the bond still continues in some way.

Stella

posted this before but the post seems lost.
Andy and Kim Murray are now parents of a baby girl according to the BBC

sperry

Maybe Andy will mellow out? Tad of perspective, I bet.

Gary Moser

Here's a real faith-loser for you:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/02/12/a-tennis-umpire-was-banned-for-betting-but-was-allowed-to-work-the-u-s-open/

sperry

The article said that there was a "secret ban." Later it says one banned guy officiated because of a flaw in the credentialing process. So two independent factors led up to the mistake? (And... no... no faith loss. I assume this stuff happens. How can it NOT happen with things like "secret bans?")

Gary Moser

Akin to Animal House's "double-secret probation", maybe?

Veglia

Djokovic still cannot forget last September in New York. How can you tell?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBuNnJSzPzj/

Stella

Nole retirres with eye problem after 17 sttraight finals

Stella

RF announces on his Facebook site that though rehab is going well he is skipping IW but will play Monte Carlo

Gary Moser

Discuss among yourselves:

http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/novak-djokovic-federer-nadal-greatest-ever/

sperry

Any new ideas there? I didn't see any.

Gary Moser

No NEW ones, and the usual absence of OLD ones that I find highly relevant:

(1) Federer still way out in front of both on weeks at #1...

(2) his highlighting TOTAL H2H instead of SLAM H2H, where Nadal still holds a sizeable advantage over Djokovic...

(3) Federer missed 2 Calendar Slams by losing 4-setters at the FO to peak-Nadal and peak-Nadal, respectively,
while Novak missed his by losing 4-setters to past-prime-Federer and hot-and-cold-Wawrinka, respectively...

Plus, his boxing analogy is all hosed up. First of all, too few meetings between the pugilistic troika ---
Ali almost went 1-and-2 against Frazier, and had a one-off with Foreman.
[ Not to mention that Federer would be Ali, Nadal would be Frazier...and Djokovic would be HOLMES ].

sperry

A couple months ago, someone (Alpha?) posted a couple links to an analysis based on points awarded via ranking discrepancy. So if a #100 ranked player beat a #1, he got a bucketload of points whereas if a #1 beat a #100, he got very few. The guys who did the analysis said that they had access to every match played (I think) in the Open Era (they gave the source). Furthermore, they wrote their own code, which they generously posted, so one could see exactly how the analysis was done. (If one could read code, which I can't.) Anyway... given the fact these guys had access to all the matches and obviously a great deal of expertise at writing code, it seemed strange to me that someone didn't write/run a program that allowed us to see the results on a week to week basis. This would allow us to see how many weeks at #1 each player had, based on the "strength of competition" variable. (And year end #1's for what it is worth.) (The only thing I would have done differently is somehow factor tourneys (slams, mostly but not exclusively) with 5 sets and play scheduled on alternate days a bit more weight. Also, this analysis still doesn't address the strong era/weak era issue.) (And, if anyone has those links, could you repost? I thought I saved them but can't find them.)

Gary Moser

very -- VERY -- sad day for tennis:


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bud-collins-dead-tennis-broadcaster-813682

Stella

I really liked Bud. What a character, and those pants ......
But 86 is a good career

sperry

"Bananas don't belong in the refrigerator and Evert doesn't belong at the net." Who else, I ask.

Bettyjane

Another favorite comment from Bud during a match (the classic Borg/ McEnroe Wimby final). Borg slapped his thigh after winning an important point and Bud counters with "EMOTION FROM BORG!!!!". I was so tense during that match but even I broke out laughing.

Stella

hi BJ.

Send me an e mail -- I'm wondering what you are thinking about these caucuses and primaries results

Stella

Big announcement due today from Shriekopova. Retirement perhaps ?
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/sharapova-set-major-announcement-024807988--ten.html

Stella

perhaps she's trying to upstage Peyton Manning or perhaps they are planning on running off into the sunset together

Stella

for those who want an article about it.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/women-s-tennis-icon-maria-sharapova-announces-she-failed-a-doping-test-at-the-australian-open-203108205.html

Gary Moser

EXCLAMATION AND JOY!!!!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/17/roger-federer-comeback-miami-open-tennis

nick

Spring starts today.

Gary Moser

INTERESTING FIRST-HAND ACCOUNT:

http://www.desertsun.com/story/sports/tennis/bnp/2016/03/20/all-broke-bad-so-quickly-raymond-moore/82060048/

Bettyjane

Cause of Fed's injury: (TP is just going to LOVE this)

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/federer-blames-bath-mishap-injury-led-surgery-37906719

nick

This is what WADA should do for all top players. When tests are available to detect the "stuff" then go after them retroactively and take away all those prizes. Why was it done only for that scumbag Armstrong.

From Fed's interview:

"He added: “I still believe we should keep blood samples for 10 years, store them, let athletes and tennis players know that’s the case. You could be punished retroactively.”

Alpha

Was surfing the web and came across this:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/25/magazine/tennis-magazine-archives.html

Stella

off at 7am tomorrow to see the tennis at Charleston -- Volvo Car Open . What a crappy name. Was Family Circle Cup better ? Not sure . Pity events names can't include the city name.

On the agenda, Keys, Venus ( who I'll omit ) Safarova, Bouchard, Bencic. But really want to see Mattek Sands and Safarova who are playing doubs on a side court with great seats only a few feet from the court

Bettyjane

Enjoy yourself Stella. Hope the weather is with you.

Alpha

TP, had a thought. Maybe you can do a survey on this.

Which is the greatest exercise in futility (close but no cigar)?
Djokovic at FO
Murray at AO
Federer at Monte Carlo
Lendl at Wimbledon
Borg at USO

Stella

question for TP and others out there --- Is Nadal dyeing his scalp ? Last time I saw him on TV, when he went to serve and the TV camera was looking down on his head there was a huge pale bald strip where he has parted his hair and is going bald. In Monte Carlo the top of his head is dark, no bald strip

Gary Moser

http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id/15232325/novak-djokovic-serena-williams-win-laureus-awards-world-top-athletes

sperry

Funny. Don't know if you can relate. That bell that goes off in your head once in a great while that just says "WRONG!" You haven't a clue what is wrong. Just wrong. When I saw him at MC, he leaned over to serve, and my brain did just that. Bet there is something goofy.

Gary Moser

Good Roger Federer interview:

http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Roger-Federer-I-will-play-for-a-few-more-years-I-am-not-surprised-by-Nadals-comeback-articolo32082.html

Alpha

Guess who on Tennis Planet might be Time's editor-in-chief? One tennis player in 100 most influentiql people in the world. And that one would be Sania Mirza. Right.

http://time.com/collection/2016-time-100/icons/

sperry

The effect of this person's taking up tennis late in life. Not the most optimistic article you are going to read today. But interesting and true.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/opinion/better-aging-through-practice-practice-practice.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0

Alpha

Leicester City have just won the Premoer League title. Started the season at 5000 to 1 odds. To provide context, the odds on Kim Kardashian becoming the next President is 2000 to 1. Is this the biggest upset in sporting history?

sperry

I knew they had a shot at it.

Alpha

I was watching Murray vs Berdych yesterday and a thought struck me --- could Berdych be the greatest player to have never won a slam? He's been #4 in the word, made it to the semis of all 4 slams, beaten Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray at slams (only Wawrinka and Tsonga have done that), and earned upwards of 20 million dollars.

Any thoughts?

sperry

Based on performance, and if only looking at current players, couldn't be anyone else. But... this is weird. Pretend you followed Berdych and Tsonga's careers, but somehow you missed all the slams and don't know the results. Who do you think was most likely to win one in their prime... Tsonga or Berdych? I'd pick Tsonga. Berdych lacks something. Mental toughness?

Alpha

I just wrote this off the cuff without checking any stats. But, after checking, Tsonga has as strong, if not a stronger, case.

sperry

Didn't do anything in-depth here... took Wiki stats (different from ATP). Tsonga: 365-170 for 68%. 12 titles. Slams: 1 F, 5 SF, 6 QF. Berdych: 549-285 for 66%. 12 titles. 1 F, 4 SF, 8 QF. I'd say those two are about as close as two can get. (Half of Berdy's are at the AO, so he loses a bit for that, think I.)

Alpha

As close as it gets. But a small edge to Tsonga, maybe.

The news to me is how many matches Berdych has played -- 934 to 535 and they're about the same age.

Alpha

Tsonga is 5 months older. Berdych leads h2h 8-3.

sperry

I didn't say half his WHAT in my post above.... I meant half of his slam Quarters and semi's are at the AO... So virtually half his high performance slams were registered in the last 6 years at one slam. Bit off balance, think I. I knew Tsonga was injury prone, but wouldn't have thought it was THAT bad.

Alpha

Yeah, sometimes we learn a lot by just looking at the numbers.

Alpha

TP, one of your GOATs under serious threat.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15499690/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-first-unanimous-most-valuable-player

DSG

I think the same way as Stella and Sperry do. Something sort of obvious is going on there.

Stella

Hey TP.

Are you from the UK ? You called Nole's shoes "trainers " UK is the only country I know where they are called that

Tennis Planet

STELLA

No. 'That' came with the photo.

Stella

well that narrows things down --- 196countries in the world and you are not in England, Scotland or Wales so only 193 other possibilities !!

Bettyjane

NPR has a Will Shortz "Puzzle of the Week" and this was a very good one.

What is the most consecutive points a tennis player can lose and still win a best-of-five-sets match? There's no trick. It's a straightforward question. The modern tennis tiebreaker rule does not come into play.

Alpha

Here's my guess. -- 76.

Bettyjane

We have to wait till next Sunday for the correct answer.

Gary Moser

Alpha's 76 looks right to me, per my admittedly quick-and-dirty analysis:

You go up 5-0, 40-0 in the first set,
then you lose the next 5 consecutive points to lose that game which makes it 5-1,
and lose each of the next 6 games at love [ 24 straight points ] to lose the set 5-7.

You then drop the 2nd set 0-6 by losing 24 straight points,
and start the 3rd set by going down 0-5, 0-40 by losing 23 straight points,
before mounting your comeback to win.

5 + 24 + 24 + 23 = 76

Alpha

Yup that was my calculation.

Gary Moser

HAAS HAS NEW JOB:

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/pro-tommy-haas-hired-tourney-director-indian-wells-39591239

DK

Shrieka suspended for 2 years
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/sports/tennis/maria-sharapova-doping-suspension.html?_r=0

Bella

Re: Sharapova

Here is the full judgment:

http://www.itftennis.com/media/231178/231178.pdf

Clear finding of PED use from 2014 onwards - concealed from her team ...
She is appealing the ban as too harsh, but not the substantive finding of PED use.

Bella

Paragraphs 62-63 if you cannot wait, and - my mistake - not 2014 but certainly 2016.
Draw your own conclusions..

Bella

Rafal Nadal has withdrawn from Wimbledon.
Not really a surprise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/36493725

Bella

Rafael Nadal has also withdrawn (oops!)

Alpha

Two good articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/18/roger-federer-interview-tennis-wimbledon-simon-hattenstone?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.georgevecsey.com/home/bud-collins-the-leader-of-a-raffish-pack

Alpha

Just to annoy TP:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2016/06/basketballs-greatest-player

Gary Moser

He loses me at "If he hasn’t surpassed them already, he will by the time he’s done."

Anointing now based on certainty that a current level will be maintained,
when it's anything but certain, has always just rubbed me wrong.

I've always been in the camp of some famous sportswriter from a couple of generations
ago who said something like "When human beings are involved, no one should ever
be more than a 5-to-1 favorite."

Stella

The man in the hat.
Still sits in the box

Stella

the man in the hat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88dcWANP1Y

enjoy. Loved his northern English accent.

Note the hat though --- for as long as I can remember it has a design of palm trees annd some writing including the word club ( from Abu Dhabi perhaps ). today the palm rees were covered by a plain black band --- not allowed to advertise something else perhaps after all these years

Alpha

A little gem:

https://www.1843magazine.com/culture/tenniss-surprising-evolution

Stella

TP Can we have some pics from the Wimbledon Ball please, and not just of Serena and Andy.

Thanks

Alpha

Think Djokovic likes to beat up on Federer? Go to 1:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S93YvQiCpE

sperry

I don't understand your comment. Sounded like Roger taking the opportunity to badmouth Novak.

Alpha

Sorry, poorly expressed. I was trying to say that "don't you think after comments like this, Novak probably takes a special pleasure in beating up on Federer."

sperry

Got it, and agree. I know that Roger never has and never will do a McEnroe or Connors, but it was constant stuff like that that made me start hoping that Novak would get to 18. Seemed like every time I listened to an interview, he was taking opportunities to make sure that everyone knew that there was no one as great as him.

Gary Moser

Since I nailed the trifecta at Wimbledon
[ Raonic over Federer and Murray over Berdych, then Murray over Raonic ]
I feel justified in going out on a much shorter limb for The Rogers Cup in Toronto:

With Murray, Federer and Nadal all withdrawing.....Raonic over Djokovic.

[ It's almost TOO EASY! ]

Alpha

Good to see you have included Nadal in the mix.
I say Novak is back with a vengeance.

sperry

I just want him to be fresh for Cincinnati.

Alpha

It's the week after the Olympics, another trophy he desperately wants.

Its a brutal 7 week period -- Rogers, week off, Olympics, Cincy, week off, USO.

Ricke

Here is something I found while surfing the internet.....http://nypost.com/2016/07/21/tennis-bad-boys-in-angry-showdown-with-dc-cop/?ref=yfp

sperry

If I were him, I'd probably skip Rogers cup (along with all the other players skipping it). I wonder what his order of preference is... USO, Olympics, Cincy, I'd guess.

sperry

Absolutely too weird. When stuff like this happens, I assume I need a bigger picture. What happened BEFORE the video? If I dig deeply into my imagination, I can come up with a scenario (unlikely, I know) that might describe it. Cop (if he is one) is a nice guy who knows it can be dangerous playing in lightening... or maybe he's a jerk with an authority problem, suggests that they stop playing. One of the players (both have tempers) don't realize the guy is a cop (or they do and don't care) and tells him where to go. Cop gets mad and decides to push it. ???

Gary Moser

Very nice article on one of the least-appreciated fixtures of the BIG FOUR era:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/07/22/for-ivo-karlovic-every-win-is-one-for-the-ages/

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