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04/09/2018

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Kitty

They both successfully used PEDs without anyone noticing it

Alpha

They both spentt large parts of their careers without getting sufficient respect. For Kobe, it was mainly about if could he win without Shaq. For Rafa, it was being considered second best to a guy he regularly beat.

Bettyjane

Co winners🤔☺

O

They spent the better part of their career chase GOAT status, unsuccessfully.

Veglia

Both staged a successful comeback to the top

Gary Moser

Both competed/competing within unequivocally MALE-gender framework?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boston-marathon-transgender-women-can-compete-as-women/

Veglia

Oh, I know. They both started their career with full head of hair and went progressively more and more bold ...

O

Both are against the will of the fans in their quest for GOAT status.

Gary Moser

"...against the will of the fans..."
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That should be a HELP, right?

[ I'll-show-you motivation combined with no burden-of-expectation? ]

O

Maybe if you can channel it correctly? maybe it could also be deflating if you keep missing?

alex

Good one Ha Ha

Tennis Planet

HINT:

You don't have to be NBA nerd to be aware of the 'Kobe' part. Heck, some may say just a casual sports fan would be enough.

Translation: It's freaking 'glaring'.

Kitty

Ok I think I got it now..
Both develop PED pimples when they blush

O

Got it now, got this idea yesterday without posting. They both are good at getting triple doubles?

Alpha

Where's Veglia when you need him?

Paul

They both regret that neither of names include either "roger" or "federer"

!!!!!

Kitty

Both went from long hair to bald hair for using PEDs while chasing a goat all their life

Veglia

If the "glaring" hints at them getting bold, then I've said it already. See above. Kitty has further elaborated on the topic and offered a more fulsome answer. I already lost one or two WoF because I was lazy to type ... One to Gary recently, I remember that.

Alpha

Both have "animals" as their logo -- mamba and bull.

O

Both came on the scene as a teenager, and had many extra years to chase down the GOAT status.

Murph

They both are afflicted with OCD.

Tennis Planet

Correct answer: No. 81.

Alpha

Good one TP. I should’ve got it. I think you’re giving the casual sports fan too much credit. If you have equivalence, ask the basketball fan what 81 means to tennis. See how many correct answers you get. That just about the same number of tennis fans that knew #81 was meaningful for Kobe.

Veglia

81?

Veglia

Ah, so 81 wins on clay VS 81 points in a game. Yes, you do give us too much credit.

Gary Moser

One is a stat WITHIN ONE CONTEST...the other a stat related to a SERIES OF CONTESTS.

One is an all-time record within that sport...the other isn't.

( pause )

Small wonder I've won only one WOFC --- just not how my mind works.

Tennis Planet

ALPHA

"You don't have to be NBA nerd to be aware of the 'Kobe' part. Heck, some may say just a casual sports fan would be enough."

Above refers EXCLUSIVELY for the 'Kobe' part (81 points) - and it comes with 'some may say' meaning it's possible that 'most' may still not know.

Regarding 'equivalence', if this was the basketball site the process would have been reverse meaning 'Nadal' part would have been as 'glaring' as the 'Kobe' part was here to accommodate 'cursory' knowledge of tennis from a basketball fan.

Point: Expecting basketball fans to be aware of Nadal's 81 is FAR extreme than expecting tennis fan to be aware of Kobe's 81 - as most media outlets had that as a headline - while the feat was in progress - forget when it was done.

Veglia

All I can say, it was a good TP WoF. Standard trivia can be found on other sites. Now, Ingemar Stenmark has something in common too wrt 81. What is it?

Kitty

total Slalom?

Veglia

No, that would be too easy but also incorrect. He is 181cm tall, which is exactly 81 cm more than a meter. Doesn't that qualify as "having something in common"? OK, maybe a bit of a stretch :)

BTW, he has 86 World Cup wins. Stenmark and Borg, both from Sweden in the late 70's / early 80's glory days ...

Alpha

I thought you had a global following TP ? Kobe’s 81 barely made headlines in my village.

Veglia

Who is Kobe???

Alpha

More like what is Kobe?

Veglia

That I know. Funny his parents actually named him after it. True story

Alpha

And Roger was born in 1981. Is this the greatest number in history?

Veglia

After 42

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