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Why No. 13 from Nadal and his continued rampage @ Roland Garros is hurting Federer and Djokovic - big freaking time.

That MASSIVE asterisk they have on their Career Slam stat is gradually transforming into a state where the stat may be (already is?) completely deleted from their resume - once and for all - for TWO reasons:

1. You won when Nadal 'wasn't' there.

2. And when he was there, he not only humiliated you - in straight sets - but also dished a bagel.

2020

ESP

Rafael Nadal

SRB

Novak Djokovic

6–0, 6–2, 7–5

 

2008

ESP

Rafael Nadal

SUI

Roger Federer

6–1, 6–3, 6–0

Djokovic's coaches. 12?

Jelena Genčić (1993–1999)
Nikola Pilić (1999–2003)
Dejan Petrović (2004–2005)
Riccardo Piatti (2005–2006)
Marián Vajda (2006–2017, 2018–present)
Mark Woodforde (2007)
Todd Martin (2009–2010)
Boris Becker (2013–2016)
Andre Agassi (2017–2018)
Mario Ančić (2017)
Radek Štěpánek (2018)
Goran Ivanišević (2019–present)

Most titles at a single tournament.

Wins	Player	Tournament	Years
13	Rafael Nadal	French Open	2005–2008, 2010–2014, 2017–2020
11	Rafael Nadal	Monte-Carlo Masters	2005–2012, 2016–2018
		Barcelona Open	2005–2009, 2011–2013, 2016–2018
10	Roger Federer	Halle Open	2003–2006, 2008, 2013–2015, 2017, 2019
		Swiss Indoors	2006–2008, 2010–2011, 2014–2015, 2017–2019
9	Rafael Nadal	Italian Open	2005–2007, 2009–2010, 2012–2013, 2018–2019
8	Guillermo Vilas	Buenos Aires	1973–1976, 1977, 1977(2), 1979, 1982
	Roger Federer	Wimbledon	2003–2007, 2009, 2012, 2017
		Dubai Tennis Championships	2003–2005, 2007, 2012, 2014–2015, 2019
	Novak Djokovic	Australian Open	2008, 2011–2013, 2015–2016, 2019–2020
7	Roger Federer	Cincinnati Masters	2005, 2007, 2009–2010, 2012, 2014–2015
	Pete Sampras	Wimbledon	1993–1995, 1997–2000
6	Novak Djokovic	China Open	2009–2010, 2012–2015
		Miami Open	2007, 2011–2012, 2014–2016
	Björn Borg	French Open	1974–1975, 1978–1981
	Jimmy Connors	Grand Prix Birmingham	1974–1977, 1979–1980
	Balázs Taróczy	Dutch Open	1976, 1978–1982
	Ivan Lendl	Canadian Open	1980–1981, 1983, 1987–1989
	Andre Agassi	Miami Masters	1990, 1995–1996, 2001–2003
	Roger Federer	ATP World Tour Finals	2003–2004, 2006–2007, 2010–2011
		Australian Open	2004, 2006–2007, 2010, 2017–2018
5	John McEnroe	Wembley Championship	1978–1980, 1982–1983
		Pacific Coast Championships	1978–1979, 1982, 1984, 1986
		WCT Finals	1979, 1981, 1983–1984, 1989
	Roger Federer	US Open	2004–2008
		Indian Wells Masters	2004–2006, 2012, 2017
	Pete Sampras	US Open	1990, 1993, 1995–1996, 2002
		ATP Tour World Championship	1991, 1994, 1996–1997, 1999
	Novak Djokovic	ATP World Tour Finals	2008, 2012–2015
		Indian Wells Masters	2008, 2011, 2014–2016
		Wimbledon	2011, 2014–2015, 2018–2019
		Paris Masters	2009, 2013–2015, 2019
		Italian Open	2008, 2011, 2014–2015, 2020
	Ivan Lendl	Masters	1981–1982, 1985–1987
		Tokyo Indoor	1983, 1985, 1990, 1992–1993
	Andre Agassi	Washington Open	1990–1991, 1995, 1998–1999
		Pacific Coast Championships	1990, 1993, 1995, 1998, 2003
	Björn Borg	Wimbledon	1976–1980
	Jimmy Connors	US Open	1974, 1976, 1978, 1982–1983
	Yevgeny Kafelnikov	Kremlin Cup	1997–2001
	Carlos Moyá	Croatia Open	1996, 2001–2003, 2007
	Andy Murray	Queens Club Championships	2009, 2011, 2013, 2015–2016
	Rafael Nadal	Madrid Open	2005, 2010, 2013–2014, 2017
		Canadian Open	2005, 2008, 2013, 2018–2019

Nadal won the championship points for his last two Slams because people couldn't return his freaking SERVE? Second serve?

Go to 4:49.

 

 

Recognize these stats?

13 / 20.

8 / 20.

8 /17.

Five factors for GOAT determination between Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

Slams.

Masters.

WTF.

H2H against each other. It will be hard to be the GOAT with losing H2H against your two big rivals standing right behind you.

Second Career Slam? I mean, two (one - specially after 2020 FO final?) are still in the running for it. Or there's a fairly semi-realistic possibility that it (they?) could happen. That will be the ace for both Nadal and Djokovic - to allow them to overcome WTF (Nadal) and fewer Slam deficiency (Djokovic).

Everything else is Mickey Mouse? From weeks @ No. 1 to career titles to..............

 

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Federer's 'stand alone' records @ Wimbledon.

Wimbledon	2003–2007, 2009, 2012, 2017	8 titles
	2003–2007	5 consecutive titles	Björn Borg
	2017	Won title without losing a set
		Oldest champion (35 years, 11 months)	Stands alone
	2003–2007, 2009, 2012, 2017	14 year gap between first and last singles title
	2003–2009, 2012, 2014–2015, 2017, 2019	12 finals
	2003–2009	7 consecutive finals
		7 consecutive semifinals
	2001–2019	101 match wins
	1999–2019	114 matches played
		21 tournaments played
	2001, 2003–2012, 2014–2019	17 quarterfinals
	2003–2009, 2012, 2014–2017, 2019	13 semifinals
	2005–2006, 2017–2018	34 consecutive sets won (twice)
	2018	35 consecutive service points won
	2019	Longest rally won in a Wimbledon final (35 shots)
	2019	Longest final (by duration) vs. Novak Djokovic	Novak Djokovic

Federer's 'stand alone' records. How many will 'keep' standing?

Tournament	Since	Record accomplished	Player tied
Grand Slams	1877	20 men's Grand Slam singles titles	Rafael Nadal
		31 men's Grand Slam finals	Stands Alone
		All 4 Grand Slam finals in 1 season reached three times (2006–2007, 2009)
		2+ men's Grand Slam titles per-year 6 times (2004–2007, 2009, 2017)
		3 men's Grand Slam titles per-year 3 times (2004, 2006–2007)
		2 consecutive years winning 3 titles (2006–2007)
		4 consecutive years winning 2+ titles (2004–2007)
		46 men's Grand Slam semifinals
		57 men's Grand Slam quarter-finals
		10 consecutive men's Grand Slam finals (2005–2007)
		23 consecutive men's Grand Slam semifinals
		36 consecutive men's Grand Slam quarter-finals
		25 consecutive victories in quarter-finals
		79 men's Grand Slam tournament appearances
		7+ finals at three tournaments
		4+ consecutive finals at three tournaments
		6+ consecutive finals at two tournaments
		5 consecutive titles at two tournaments
		5+ titles at three tournaments
		6+ titles at two tournaments
		85+ match wins at three tournaments
		100+ match wins at two tournaments
		40 consecutive match wins at two tournaments
		191 hard court match wins
		8+ titles on two different surfaces (hard & grass)
		12+ finals on two different surfaces (hard & grass)
		362 match wins
		421 matches played
ATP World Tour	1970
		24 consecutive tournament finals won
		24 consecutive match wins against top ten opponents
		71 hard court titles
		56 consecutive hard court match victories
		24 ATP 500 series titles
		6+ titles at seven different tournaments
ATP Rankings	1973	310 weeks as world No. 1
		237 consecutive weeks as world No. 1
		3 consecutive calendar years as wire-to-wire No. 1 (2005–2007)
		Oldest No. 1 in ATP history (36 years, 320 days)
		15 years ended inside the top 3 (2003–2012, 2014–2015, 2017–2019)
Wimbledon	1877	8 men's singles titles
World Tour Finals	1970	6 men's singles titles
Cincinnati Masters	1899	7 men's singles titles
Swiss Indoors	1970	10 men's singles titles
Halle Open	1993	10 men's singles titles
Dubai Tennis Championships		8 men's singles titles
Qatar Open		3 men's singles titles
Thailand Open	2003–13	2 men's singles titles

Federer has earned more money than anyone else in JUST six of the 24 years he has been on the tour? First year he made JUST $27,305?????????

Year	Majors	ATP wins	Total wins	Earnings	Money list rank
1998	0	0	0	$27,305	–
1999	0	0	0	$225,139	97
2000	0	0	0	$623,782	27
2001	0	1	1	$865,425	14
2002	0	3	3	$1,995,027	4
2003	1	6	7	$4,000,680	1
2004	3	8	11	$6,357,547	1
2005	2	9	11	$6,137,018	1
2006	3	9	12	$8,343,885	1
2007	3	5	8	$10,130,620	1
2008	1	3	4	$5,886,879	2
2009	2	2	4	$8,768,110	1
2010	1	4	5	$7,698,289	2
2011	0	4	4	$6,369,576	3
2012	1	5	6	$8,584,842	2
2013	0	1	1	$3,203,637	6
2014	0	5	5	$9,343,988	2
2015	0	6	6	$8,682,892	2
2016	0	0	0	$1,527,269	22
2017	2	5	7	$13,054,856	2
2018	1	3	4	$8,629,233	4
2019	0	4	4	$8,716,975	3
2020	0	0	0	$714,792	28
2021	0	0	0
Career*	20	83	103	$129,946,683	2

Federer's coaches. 11? From 9 countries? One from Spain? Traitor?

Adolf Kacovský (1989–1991)
Peter Carter (1991–1994, 1996–1999)
Reto Staubli (1995–1996, 2003)
Peter Lundgren (1999–2003)
Pierre Paganini (Fitness Coach) (2000–present)
Tony Roche (2005–2007)
Severin Lüthi (2007–present)
José Higueras (2008)
Paul Annacone (2010–2013)
Stefan Edberg (2013–2015)
Ivan Ljubičić (2016–present)

There’s a point on the Federer-Nadal friendship timeline where the relationship could (will?) turn sour, if not outright bitter - Agassibitter.

I had a best friend who, coincidentally, also lived in a basement two blocks from my ‘place’. We did everything together. Then he got some inheritance so he upgraded his basement to where mine started looking like some very dirty and antique basement - which it was to begin with - but I just got ‘informed’ of it - rudely.

We still remained friends but both of us could feel the ‘balance’ shifting.

Then one day he won a big lottery and moved into a house - with a basement - and bought a fancy sports car called Ferrari.

And gradually we drifted away to now where we rarely even see each other.

Getting the pitchker?

Nadal may have just upgraded his basement but he is not stopping there - barring something major.

Point:

Nadal has started the process that will make Federer even more uncomfortable with every title that Nadal wins eventually reaching the breaking point.

Given Federer’s track record of always being a sore loser - that point on the timeline may come LOT sooner than ‘logic’ would warrant. AO title? WTF? 23 Slams?

And then there’s the possibility (certainty?) of Djokovic ‘taking care’ of Federer - from the other end - to ABSOLUTELY ensure above ‘souring’ happens.

Bottom line: Federer has no way to go but the ‘Agassi’ way - sooner than later.

Photos.

Prince Albert II during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Carlos MOYA coach of Rafael NADAL during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Bernard GIUDICELLI president of Tennis French Federation during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Valerie PECRESSE during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Anne HIDALGO mayor of Paris during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Rafal NADAL of Spain during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

General view of Court Philippe Chatrier during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

RAFAEL NADAL of Spain celebrates his victory during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Rafael NADAL celebrates the victory with his sisters, his wife and his mother during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Prince Albert II with Rafael NADAL of Spain during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

Rafael NADAL of Spain celebrates with the trophy during the day fifteen men's final Roland Garros on October 11, 2020 in Paris, France. (Photo by Anthony Dibon/Icon Sport via Getty Images)

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